Rachel Nabors ([info]crowhen) wrote,
@ 2008-03-29 17:37:00
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Response to Changes
I received the following note on MySpace, and because she brings up some excellent concerns, I thought I would clarify what role my future husband did play in my decision to move. Posted below is her comment and a version of my reply to it.

Even though everyone is saying to you that they understand and that they hope you have a wonderful etc, I am sitting here wondering why you would give up your biggest dreams and live with a guy, away from everything that you once loved. I don't know you, and I don't know anything about this guy or your old home, but it pains me to think that one of the best comic chicks around is getting pushed over by some guy. It is not a good influence to show your fans that a girl can be easily woo-ed by a man and give up her dreams in the midst of it. A lot of girls do this to themselves, I didn't think you would be one of them to give up everything. I don't understand why you would do this and possibly won't ever.

It was great to hear from such a sensible a young woman. I understand her concern completely, and she's absolutely right. A girl should never abandon all that is important to her for a man! But I made my decision to get a day job long before he proposed, and let me assure you that I carefully weighed my decisions before deciding to move. I can only go so far in Roanoke. I could have requested that my fiance move up here, he was willing, but then I realized that I (and he) have a better chance of advancement and success in the urban area that is Raleigh. There are better colleges for furthering my education, better jobs and opportunities, more creative people to interact with, and a bigger comicking community. That's to say nothing of its proximity to some of the best facilities to work on my jaw. I had always planned to move camp, but I did not expect to move it so soon or southward. Life change is always bittersweet, and I am sure this is not my last move.

Also, the sooner I know where I will be for two years, the sooner I can start fixing my jaw, which is of prominent importance to me right now and the reason for my seeking a non-comics job. So all the more reason to move as soon as a decision has been reached. (Plus, I need a job to keep living, and I can't take the job up here and leave after only a few months. That's bad form.)

As you can see, my decision to move has more to do with business sense than my deferring to my significant other. As I have made sacrifices to move down there, so too is he making sacrifices. (I negotiated with him for hours before accepting his proposal. There will be sacrifices, but not of the virginal kind, thankfully!)

But I completely agree. A girl should never give up her dreams for a guy. Keep your priorities straight. Don't be afraid to set your foot down, to negotiate, to have demands or principles. They are worth fighting for.

It feels like I'm losing a dream, but as so many other readers have already posted, I'm not losing a dream. I'm leaving a job. As long as I keep making comics, even if it is in my spare time, the dream lives.




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[info]joamette
2008-03-29 10:45 pm UTC (link)
You make us proud, Rachel.

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[info]falconwhitaker
2008-03-29 11:21 pm UTC (link)
*bows* You teach as well, Rachel-sensei. ;D

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[info]kimonos_house
2008-03-30 05:18 am UTC (link)
I'd say it looks like you made a sound, wise, and very mature decision. It's extremely hard to make a living in comics. Even Stan Lee has to go to court to get his paychecks, and if Stan the Man has to fight to get paid, what hope does that leave the rest of us? There's nothing wrong with getting a day job. If I didn't have a day job, I couldn't make a comic at all, and without my comic, my life would be a lot darker. Pay the bills, and draw whenever you can!

I hope to someday see a collaborative work from you and Joe. My husband and I created a comic series during our first few years together, and it was the most fun we've ever had. Someday, I want to get them online.

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[info]crowhen
2008-03-30 05:25 am UTC (link)
I would love to see them when you do :)

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Teh guy...
[info]komejo
2008-03-30 05:25 am UTC (link)
As the guy in question I would also like to respond with the following:
  • I would not have proposed if I thought I was disrupting Rachel's career in comics.

  • I wouldn't propose to a girl who could be 'pushed over' by a guy.

  • Miss Rachel is not easily woo-ed.

  • I'm also a cartoonist, and I have tremendous respect for Rachel's skills and abilities, which far exceed my own.

  • The decision to get married was based on equality, communication and trust.

  • I'm doing my best to encourage Rachel to continue with her career in comics--after all, I'm one of her biggest fans. :-)

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[info]tscheese
2008-03-30 05:37 pm UTC (link)
I totally see why that commenter would have said that. If I didn't know much about you, and if I only knew that you made comics, I'd be like "OMG ONOES RACHEL IS LEAVING TO BE WITH SOME D00D11!!one"

But! I think anyone who's ever tried to bust into the comicking/cartooning biz knows how difficult it is. You have cutthroat competition, and even once you've broken into the field and started to make some real dollars, the hours are insane, the workload is steep, and deadlines are harrowing. (Hell, I even got a tiny taste of this back when I was doing my tiny, tiny freelance work. I definitely don't have the balls to do it full-time like you did!)

It was awesome and awe-inspiring to see you live the dream for as long as you did, but despite the fact that balancing the engagement/moving/job-seeking/surgery is going to be kinda crazy, I think you'll be fine. You've got a lot of great opportunities that could come from this.

And! People are learning more about you, and your work, and what it's really like to be a comicker. The fact that you addressed this commenter's inquiry in such a thoughtful and informative manner will give even more people an insight into what it's like to really make comics for a living.

Plus, I can't wait to see what happens when you start making comics for yourself and not just for a paycheck/deadline. I think it'll be really interesting to see where you take your work--whether it's with Rachel the Great or with a whole other cast of characters. Plus, we'll still be seeing your work over at gURL for awhile. The internets still have you! And you have us. :)

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[info]crowhen
2008-03-31 04:44 am UTC (link)
Thanks :) My stuff will be on gURL for a long time. They just won't be posting new things.

It's hard work. I wouldn't wish it on anybody. But I did enjoy it!

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[info]livingluster
2008-03-30 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Looking forward to having you in NC. :)

-Cassie

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[info]crowhen
2008-03-31 04:41 am UTC (link)
Likewise :) I hope we can hang out!

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[info]sambucivox
2008-03-31 12:30 am UTC (link)
I was really worried about you when you posted the Changes blog entry. Not because you were moving out with a guy to get married, but because you had to stop your job for gURL -and by extension, your comicker carrier, at least for a while.

However, the way you explained the practical advantages of your decission in this article looks so mature, so well thought and so researched that one can hardly argue your point. In fact, I admire the way you wrote all those arguments down and negotiated with your fiancé and your needs.

I will be facing some hard times ahead in a few months, slightly similar to what you are experiencing now, but now I feel that I can face them better -and maybe EVEN survive them.

But puh-lease. Keep Rachel the Great and Lowlife Sparrow alive, and make an upload of that wonderful folk-tale re-telling story about the heart of a monster that you wrote some time ago before you -temporarily-part.

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[info]greenewok7
2008-03-31 05:08 am UTC (link)
Well, I'll miss having your comics to read every Wednesday, but it's understandable that it's difficult at best to make a living with freelance comics. I give you props for doing it for a little while - at least you gave it a fair shot. Please, don't give up writing comics - I saw the first one you did on gurl.com - Fifteen Revolutions - ages ago, and I loved it. I can't find the words to express how awesome that comic was to me, knowing that there was someone out there that thought about the same kind of things as me, and the art was beautiful. You've only gotten better since then.
It sounds like Raleigh is going to be great for you, with the exception of commuting, but perhaps you can carpool with friends and neighbors. As for audiobooks, there's a simple converter that you can use that looks like a tape with a wire coming off it that plugs into a cd player or mp3 player, and it's only about $15. That's what I would suggest, since it's getting harder to find cassettes. Also, thanks to Joe for putting in his $0.02; it's nice to see his point of view too. I think all your readers want to make sure you're marrying someone worthy of you, Rachel! ;) It looks like you've found one, so more power to both of you.

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[info]ldragoon
2008-04-01 05:25 am UTC (link)
The idea of you hamstringing your career just to make a significant other happy?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!

*GASP!*

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!

Uhh...

*clunk*

Sorry, fainted for a little bit there. Gotta remember to breathe when I do that.

Edited at 2008-04-01 05:26 am UTC

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All The Best, Girl
(Anonymous)
2008-04-01 03:55 pm UTC (link)
Hey Rachel, I'm Sunanda and I'm writing in from India. I've read every comic that you've made for gurl.com. I'll miss reading up a new comic every wednesday, but do get those bills paid.... then if possible, please start creating comics again! We'll all be waiting the return of the Great. All the best with the guy, hope he's great too....

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Re: All The Best, Girl
[info]crowhen
2008-04-01 04:08 pm UTC (link)
Thanks Sunanda :) And he is great!

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Re: All The Best, Girl
(Anonymous)
2008-04-07 01:53 pm UTC (link)
Hi Rachel,
I'm Domonique and I just want to wish you the best of luck! I first started reading your comics about... five or six years ago when I used to be a sporadic gurl.com user. The comics were always my favorite, because I had hopes of starting my own webcomic one day. So as the years have gone by you became my favorite and most influential comic-artist. I've noticed how lots of comic authors have to take little hiatuses (sp? lol) every once in awhile, but you will always have a fan in me. I have faith that you'll return to full-time comicking! In the meantime I hope your other fans will remember "life is not a destination, it is a journey", so I'm sure you've got plenty of years to work in the comic world. Thanks for providing me with enjoyable "girl-oriented" comics. Much Love and luck.

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Re: All The Best, Girl
(Anonymous)
2008-04-10 04:48 pm UTC (link)
Hi Rachel, Sunanda here again. Please don't think that I'm crazy or anything, but I just discussed your condition with my parents ( they're both doctors) and they agreed that 6,000 dollars should be more than enough to pay for a short visit to India, a surgery and braces. It's a serious advise. Call it dental tourism or whatever, but we are pretty sure you can get this done in about 80,000 Indian Rupees = 2,000 US dollars. another 1000 dollars maybe for a round-trip ticket? Think about it.

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Re: All The Best, Girl
[info]crowhen
2008-04-10 04:58 pm UTC (link)
Great as that sounds, I prefer to keep money "in the country". Plus, who would I see for the surgery? The only recommendations I can get are for American surgeons. But thank you for the suggestion. It is something to consider.

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Warm wishes for success :)
[info]nancy_louise
2008-04-24 12:08 am UTC (link)
No matter what anyone else says, it's what you want to do with your life that's most important. Too many people take feminism to mean we should be hard and man-hating. It just means that we should have the right to follow the paths we choose without hindrance. So, even if you did just move so you could be with your fiance, your life is your own to live, and love is just as important as a career. Besides...it's not like writing(comics or otherwise) is a job that is confined to a single location :P So enjoy being with your man, and best wishes for both of you!

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